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farsta_online
06-01-2004, 07:00 AM
Hi,
Iīve POSE for palmOs 4.1 and Tungsten E.
My problems now are with on sreen layouT:
Is there any way to adjust my layout to the screen of the handheld while coding HTML?
Iīve tried with a table size 160 x 160, but had no luck...
Any other suggestions?
Voltage Spike
06-01-2004, 07:54 AM
I find that most of the HTML I code or convert turns out fine on a handheld (a 320x480 screen in my case).
Could you give us an example of what you are trying to do? I am not entirely sure what you are trying to do, but hard coding (e.g., pixel values) sizes is generally not the best way to achieve the layout you want.
farsta_online
06-01-2004, 08:30 AM
Iīm trying writing practice guidlines using iSilo. And have big problems with
dividing into syllables
hard coding (e.g., pixel values) sizes is generally not the best way to achieve the layout you want
What way do you suggest?
Why isnīt hard coding the best way?
iSilo
06-01-2004, 08:42 AM
Hard coding is not recommended because it then makes your content non-portable, but of course that is your prerogative. If you don't intend for the content to ever be viewed on any screen size other than 160x160, then of course that is fine.
The best way to have the content portable across different screen sizes is to allow the content to flow naturally for whatever screen size the content is displayed on. See the iSilo Manual (http://www.isilo.com/support/manual/iSilo/iSiloManual.htm) for an example of how this can be done.
farsta_online
06-01-2004, 09:25 AM
The best way to have the content portable across different screen sizes is to allow the content to flow naturally for whatever screen size the content is displayed on. See the iSilo Manual (http://www.isilo.com/support/manual/iSilo/iSiloManual.htm) for an example of how this can be done.
I have to admit, that I canīt find the section your refer to
farsta_online
06-01-2004, 10:14 AM
or.. do you mean this? (http://www.isilo.com/support/kb/kb020101.htm)
iSilo
06-01-2004, 10:47 AM
I have to admit, that I canīt find the section your refer toSorry for the confusion. I don't mean that the manual explains it.
I mean that the entire source of the manual is an example. If you resize your browser to any size, note how the content of the manual reflows to fit the size of the browser window. This also applies to the content converted to iSilo format. The iSilo document converted from that source will reflow according to the screen size of the device on which the document is viewed.
farsta_online
06-01-2004, 11:12 AM
The iSilo document converted from that source will reflow according to the screen size of the device on which the document is viewed. so that means - if I donīt misstaken - that I donīt ahve to think about how it will look on tha palm screen - the convertion (or i.e iSiloX) will do that automatically..
iSilo
06-01-2004, 11:19 AM
Technically, it is when the iSilo reader displays the content that it reflows it for the screen.
farsta_online
06-03-2004, 02:44 AM
BTW,
what should I do with the images? Iīve red that I should have my images in 160 X 160 - is that correct?
and should I save images for the web?
Any other things I have to keep in consideration?
Or will iSiloX do the convertion?
/Peter
iSilo
06-03-2004, 08:43 AM
It is probably best to have images at a maximum of 160x160 if you want them to fit entirely onscreen on devices with 160x160 screens. However, a maximum width of 144 and a maximum height of 132 is actually recommended on 160x160 screens because the scrollbar takes up some of the horizontal width and the title bar and tool bar take up some of the vertical height.
However, on 320x320 screens, a 160x160 image takes up only a quarter of the screen, so you might want to take that into consideration too.
farsta_online
06-03-2004, 10:54 AM
It is probably best to have images at a maximum of 160x160 if you want them to fit entirely onscreen on devices with 160x160 screens. However, a maximum width of 144 and a maximum height of 132 is actually recommended on 160x160 screens because the scrollbar takes up some of the horizontal width and the title bar and tool bar take up some of the vertical height.
However, on 320x320 screens, a 160x160 image takes up only a quarter of the screen, so you might want to take that into consideration too.
So there is no easy way to do it...
I personaly have a palm tungsten with 320 x 320. Other palmmodels have
160 x 160.. And I donīt know what size pocketpc has...
Iīm thinking of puting the iSilo-documents on my homepage for others to download. But I donīt know how to slove the obove mentioned size problems??
Any suggestions?
iSilo
06-03-2004, 11:15 AM
Current Pocket PCs have a 240x320 screen, but one's with 480x640 screens are appearing now too.
So if you don't want to create different versions of your documents for different screen sizes, it might be good to opt for a middle ground with your images and have them be a maximum width of about 240. Those with 160 wide screens will then just have to scroll horizontally a little to view parts of the image.
farsta_online
06-03-2004, 12:00 PM
Thx for your answer iSilo it might be good to opt for a middle ground with your images and have them be a maximum width of about 240. Those with 160 wide screens will then just have to scroll horizontally a little to view parts of the image.
What hight do you suggest?
iSilo
06-03-2004, 12:34 PM
Maybe 320. But of course you really need to balance whatever sizes you choose against the clarity of the images at the chosen sizes.
farsta_online
06-03-2004, 12:37 PM
Maybe 320. But of course you really need to balance whatever sizes you choose against the clarity of the images at the chosen sizes.
But I thought that iSiloX will do the balance for me
iSilo
06-03-2004, 04:29 PM
By "balance" I mean you need to make your own decisions based on your own criteria.
You can specify a maximum image width and/or height with iSiloX and it will resize images appropriately, but it is up to you to decide what you want those maximum values to be.
farsta_online
06-03-2004, 10:21 PM
You can specify a maximum image width and/or height with iSiloX and it will resize images appropriately, but it is up to you to decide what you want those maximum values to be.
Do you recomend unchecking the " the Resize large images" ?
what do you recommend about "Lossy compression"?
iSilo
06-03-2004, 10:48 PM
Do you recomend unchecking the " the Resize large images" ?
Uncheck "resize large images" if you will be providing appropriately sized images. Otherwise, you can let iSiloX resize the images according to the specified maximum width and height.
what do you recommend about "Lossy compression"?
Lossy compressed images will only display in iSilo version 4.0 and later. So if you expect to have any users who have version 3.x, they will not be able to see the images (not good). However, if you have a lot of images or large images, then enabling lossy compression will result in a much smaller document (good) than if you did not enable lossy compression. Lossy compressed images will also display quite a bit slower (not good).
farsta_online
06-04-2004, 03:51 AM
Lossy compressed images will only display in iSilo version 4.0 and later. So if you expect to have any users who have version 3.x, they will not be able to see the images (not good). However, if you have a lot of images or large images, then enabling lossy compression will result in a much smaller document (good) than if you did not enable lossy compression. Lossy compressed images will also display quite a bit slower (not good).
So if I understand you correctly, itīs best to donīt "Lossy compress"
Voltage Spike
06-04-2004, 07:46 AM
So if I understand you correctly, itīs best to donīt "Lossy compress"
If you must reduce the size of a document, lossy compression offers a quick solution. Otherwise, I would recommend avoiding it.
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