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Ken
05-28-2004, 03:09 PM
I'm using version 4.05RC1 on a Sony TH55 and runing iSiloX on Window's XP. Apostrophe's and quotation marks in documents that I convert from the web all show up in the converted document as question marks. Also, e's in some words will show up as question marks.

For instance, a sentence like...

he asked, "is that everybody's?"

Will show up on the TH55 like this:

he asked, ?is that ev?rybody?s??

I can't figure out what settings to change to fix this. Please help.
iSilo
05-28-2004, 03:33 PM
You may need to set the default source encoding and/or the output encoding. See this thread for instructions.
Ken
05-29-2004, 10:35 AM
Thank you for the suggestion. I tried changing the encoding to many different combinations but none worked. The website says it's Western European and my TH55 is an American model. The problem happens in all url's I convert but here is the most recent one:

http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/2004.htm/ensign%20june%202004.htm?f=templates$fn=document-frame.htm$3.0$q=$x=$nc=1818

Thank you very much for your help. I really depend on iSilo a lot.

Ken.
Voltage Spike
05-29-2004, 02:29 PM
Hmm, the document uses UTF-8 while the Palm OS supports iso-8859-1, however I am pretty sure that I have successfully used those quotation entities before.

Just a thought: did you install your own font? Some fonts (such as Microsoft's bitmap fonts) do not include the directed quotation marks.
iSilo
05-29-2004, 03:16 PM
http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/2004.htm/ensign%20june%202004.htm?f=templates$fn=document-frame.htm$3.0$q=$x=$nc=1818

Thanks for the URL. After much investigation, it turns out that this particular web page is very confused:


The HTTP headers returned by that server for the page say that it is encoded using iso-8859-1.
In the <head> portion of the page itself, the meta http-equiv="content-type" element then says it is encoded using utf-8.
Then looking into the content of the page at how the quotes and double-quotes are encoded, they are actually encoded using windows-1252.
To work around this confusion, set the Output document text encoding option in iSiloX to None (raw character data). iSiloX will then ignore the encoding specified by both the HTTP headers and the <head> portion of the page. The characters and their encoding in the windows-1252 encoding are pretty much identical to that available by default on Western language Palm OS devices.
Ken
05-29-2004, 08:55 PM
Setting the output to none is something I tried earlier. When I do that, the conversion completely ignores the quotations and apostrophes and the "..." and just puts a blank space where the question marks used to be.

It seems that I just won't be able to successfully convert any pages from that site. I really appreciate your help.

In answer to the previous question, I have not put on any of my own fonts. Only what came with iSilo.

Thank you so much for your help!
Ken.
iSilo
05-29-2004, 09:10 PM
That's weird. Would you be able to post the .pdb from your lastest conversion with the results you describe so that we can take a look at what you got?
Ken
05-29-2004, 09:40 PM
I tried to post the pdb file but a message comes back saying it's an invalid file type. Would you please tell me how to post the pdb file here?
iSilo
05-30-2004, 10:20 AM
You'll need to zip it first and then post the zip.
Ken
05-30-2004, 06:39 PM
I should have known. Thanks... here's the file.

This was done with the source encoding as Western European and the output encoding as None.

I took the links out because it made the file to big to post here. But the problem already appears in the first paragraph.

Thank you for your help.
iSilo
05-30-2004, 10:18 PM
Thanks for posting the file.

Set the source encoding to Default and the output encoding to None. Then reconvert. I think that should fix it.
Ken
05-31-2004, 12:14 AM
Thank you so much! It worked perfectly! This is exactly why iSilo is the absolute best reader available. The service you gave me through this ordeal was just unbelievably amazing. Thank you so much! I've been using iSilo for a couple of years now and I will continue to use it as my reader of choice! Thank you again!

Ken.