iSiloXv4.26b2 unable to open files that browsers find

[Greg D'Unger]

I have a Lyrics file structure that parallels my Music structure thus :

Lyrics.html \ ArtistNames.html \ Albums.html \ individual song lyrics as txt files

LYRICS.HTML contains links to all ArtistNames.html files
Each ArtistName.html file contains links to their Albums.html
etc. etc.

I noticed the following problem in v4.25 iSiloX which has gotten worse in v4.26b2 :

Creating a PDB from the root level (LYRICS.HTML) produced these errors:
Unable to open: file:///e%3a/greg/palm/lyrics/the%20beatles/help!/dizzy%20miss%20lizzy.txt
Unable to open: file:///e%3a/greg/palm/lyrics/the%20beatles/past%20masters.%20volume%20one/matchbox.txt
Unable to open: file:///e%3a/greg/palm/lyrics/the%20beatles/past%20masters.%20volume%20one/slow%20down.txt
Unable to open: file:///e%3a/greg/palm/lyrics/the%20beatles/let%20it%20be%20-%20naked/don't%20let%20me%20down.txt

while creating the PDB at the sub-level where the problem seems to be DID NOT produce the same error. I use relative pathing in my html code so everything is relocatable. While the four particular problem links all refer to earlier albums where songs occured :
Dizzy Miss Lizzie is actually on Beatles VI so the link is
<a href="../Beatles VI/dizzy miss lizzie.txt">Dizzy Miss Lizzie</a>
this is not a problem for many similar cases. (For instance, The Beatles 1 has no original songs, so every link is as above and they all work.)

Note that all links work fine in any browser I use.

The problem has gotten worse in v4.26b2 because the same errors occur from both source levels (either LYRICS.HTML or THE BEATLES.HTML).

Unfortunately, if I pare things down to the point I get a ZIP file under 2MB, the problem disappears so I have nothing to give you that demonstrates the problem. The smallest ZIP I have that shows the problem is about 4 megabytes - twice your upload limit.

iSiloX v4.26b2
Unzip ZIP file keeping folder structure
Use Untitled.IXL with path corrections as needed
WinXPwSP2
Zire 71
No special hardware
No special software

[iSilo]

You can send the 4MB zip via email in as a file attachment to http://www.isilo.com/img/email.jpg. We can then take a look to see what the problem is.

[Greg D'Unger]

Note that all the shortcut files (.lnk) are there only to provide visual information in Explorer.

[iSilo]

Thanks for sending the files. The issue is that .lnk files are not supported. So for example, the second line reports that "e:\greg\palm\lyrics\the beatles\past masters. volume one\matchbox.txt" was unable to be opened. If you look in the "e:\greg\palm\lyrics\the beatles\past masters. volume one\" directory you'll see matchbox.txt.lnk but not matchbox.txt.

[Greg D'Unger]

I tried to explain that the .LNK files were not needed. They are there for my browsing in Windows Explorer so that if I am in the Help! album/folder (for example), I will see a file named "Dizzy Miss Lizzie.txt" (Explorer hides the link extension) and I will be able to double-click on the 'file' to open the "Dizzy Miss Lizzie.txt" file which actually resides in the earlier Album/folder : Beatles VI.

Thus I keep only one actual copy of a song lyric and later albums that have that same song will have a shortcut back to it.

The HTML code never refers to the LNK file and they can all be deleted for your test:

del *.lnk /s

run the above in a command window at the root level of the extracted zip files will delete all shortcuts.

Note that the HTML still works after doing this. In particular, note that clicking the "Dizzie Miss Lizzie" link in the Help!.HTML file will work and open the "Dizzie Miss Lizzie.TXT" file even though there is no file by that name in the Help! folder. This is because the Help!.HTML file uses a file-relative link for that anchor:

<a href="../Beatles VI/dizzy miss lizzie.txt">Dizzy Miss Lizzie</a>

All browsers handle this correctly. In fact iSiloX handles this correctly as well - at least the PDB generated works such that if I browse to "The Beatles", click on "Help!" and click the "Dizzie Miss Lizzie" link I get the lyrics.

The problem is (and - as I mentioned - more readily occurs in 4.26b2 than 4.25 iSiloX) that I get warnings that turn out to be 'false'.

http://forum.isilo.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=136&stc=1

There are 225 other relative links that produce no such warning. It may be a cooincidence that these four warnings happen to be from relative links. I don't know, I'm just the messenger.

[iSilo]

I understood what you said, but the files that iSiloX reported as being unable to open were definitely not in the zip.

If I do a directory listing of the zip and then search for the names of the four missing files, this is what I get:

1104 DeflatN 462 58.2% 04/11/2005 3:14p 21457079 --w---- Beatles VI/Dizzy Miss Lizzie.txt
892 DeflatN 508 43.1% 04/20/2005 2:25p b8b5c8d1 --w---- Help!/Dizzy Miss Lizzie.txt.lnk
868 DeflatN 501 42.3% 04/20/2005 11:09a 474a08a5 --w---- Past Masters. Volume One/matchbox.txt.lnk
1156 DeflatN 449 61.2% 04/11/2005 3:50p f59de91e --w---- Something New/matchbox.txt
873 DeflatN 511 41.5% 04/20/2005 11:09a ba00dbef --w---- Past Masters. Volume One/slow down.txt.lnk
1175 DeflatN 504 57.2% 04/11/2005 3:51p ba9d5904 --w---- Something New/slow down.txt
1074 DeflatN 404 62.4% 04/11/2005 4:38p 0638b699 --w---- Hey Jude/DON'T LET ME DOWN.txt
878 DeflatN 513 41.6% 04/20/2005 11:12a c2490d23 --w---- Let It Be - Naked/DON'T LET ME DOWN.txt.lnk

Now going through each unable to open message line individually:

1. In the source HTML file at Live At The BBC. Disk 2\Live At The BBC. Disk 2.html you have the link <a href="../Help!/dizzy miss lizzy.txt">Dizzy Miss Lizzy</a>, but there is no such file at that location (aside from the .lnk file with the different spelling for lizzy in that directory).

2. In the source HTML file at Live At The BBC. Disk 2\Live At The BBC. Disk 2.html you have the link <a href="../Past Masters. Volume One/matchbox.txt">Matchbox</a>, but there is no such file at that location, though there is a matchbox.txt.lnk in that directory.

3. In the source HTML file at Live At The BBC. Disk 2\Live At The BBC. Disk 2.html you have the link <a href="../Past Masters. Volume One/slow down.txt">Slow Down</a>, but there is no such file at that location, though there is a slow down.txt.lnk in that directory.

4. In the source HTML file at Past Masters. Volume Two\Past Masters. Volume Two.html you have the link <a href="../Let It Be - Naked/don't let me down.txt">Don't Let Me Down</a>, but there is no such file at that location, though there is a DON'T LET ME DOWN.txt.lnk in that directory.

[Voltage Spike]

I don't have a copy of the file, but:

the second line reports that "e:\greg\palm\lyrics\the beatles\past masters. volume one\matchbox.txt" was unable to be opened. If you look in the "e:\greg\palm\lyrics\the beatles\past masters. volume one\" directory you'll see matchbox.txt.lnk but not matchbox.txt.

Did you verify that this not the case (i.e., that this particular link is valid)? It seems to me that it is very easy to get confused if, as you indicate, you are hiding the file extensions. In this case, "matchbox.txt" does not exist but "matchbox.txt.lnk" does exist but when you view it in Explorer it shows up as "matchbox.txt".

[Greg D'Unger]

Sorry. No more late night testing for me!

"The horse appears to be dead. Somebody find a stick."